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October 30, 2010


@ird I doubt you'll have a technological edge over anyone with the mentality you have towards technologies. Are you so devout that you refuse to use youtube or maps? Those are google technologies.

Google acquired the android team back in 2005, so your assertion that android wouldn't exist without iphone is ridiculous considering it was around 2 years before the first iphone release.

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning Google in an article about a lawsuit between Motorola and Apple. Google isn't being sued for IP infringement.

@Q: I can't believe you used cut & paste as example of how competition drives innovation. Pretty lame to me. And as for not buying any Apple products, that's ok with me. I'm always looking for the technological edges over others- you being one of them.

As for Google, an innovation, without the iPhone, Google and their partners would be still twiddling their thumbs at small keyboards and wondering how to incorporate Flash onto Blacberries. Basically Google and their partners openly feel that intellectual property is secondary when it effects their ability to stay revelent; when others try to directly to steal their IP, like in China, they get offended. Talk about being two-face!

@The_Omega_Man wow you do not look at the news, once the iPhone is on Verizon Android's market share will become irrelevant, unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat with 3.0 and make it polished enough to compete head on with iOS.

Apple is in the cat bird seat when it comes to UI and demand for it's phones, Android only sells well when it is the only choice (Verizon to date) or when it is much less expensive (2 for one deals on the last generation.

More to the point is the fact that Apple is on the outs with regard to patent pools by Motorola and Nokia with regard to basic cell phone technology, and all the others are in trouble if Apple's multi-touch patents are not invalidated.

The problem for the Nokia / Motorola / cell phone group is they have already set precedent by offering relatively low licensing fee's for others, while Apple does not yet have precedent setting fees for their Multi-touch patent portfolio.

A desperate attempt by Apple to stave off Motorola from their lawsuit. Apple is running scared thanks to Google and Android. Apple doesn't welcome competition, they loathe it. If Google can get Nokia on board with using Android, the circle will be complete, and Apple will be in the same place that they are in the PC market: A distant second or third. These silly IP lawsuits will not stop the Android Army.

@Ird, to your point about bringing Google down. Why is this important? I personally wouldn't want to buy Apple products. Are you saying it some how makes sense to have one company make all smartphones. If that's the case, I guarantee the iphone would not currently have copy and paste or a host of other features that were brought sooner rather than later. I agree with recognition and compensation where due but the idea that Google should crush Apple or Apple should crush Google makes no sense.

Love it!

Between the iPAD at Verizon & AT&T and iPhone coming to Verizon in a couple of months plus the HTC & now Motorola lawsuits, Apple's surely to bring Android down to nothing.

And not to mention Oracle's direct assault on Google.


Finally!!!! It is about time Apple defends itself from rip off artists. Eventually Google needs to be nailed.
Good for Apple.

Hi Jack:

This is very interesting. The compulsory counterclaims in the Motorola-initiated case will still be filed by Apple in that particular case. However, the compulsory nature of those infringement claims only extend to the patents initially raised by Motorola in the Declaratory Judgment action.

Apple is still free to file an offensive case of infringement against Motorola on different patents, in a different jurisdiction.

That is what Apple has done here. They have determined another list of patents is infringed by Motorola and has chosen to address those assertions in a venue of its own choosing. Very interesting, because the Western District of Wisconsin is considered to be an alternative "Rocket Docket" jurisdiction option (similar to the Eastern District of Texas). It is likely also considered more "plaintiff friendly", like the Eastern District of Texas.

This is a meaningful expression of might by Apple. Motorola has opened the flood gates on this infringement issue by attacking Apple's patents in the original suit. "Mutually Assured Destruction" anyone?

There will likely be some legal wrangling to determine if all of the cases will be moved to a single jurisdiction, especially by Motorola. This is common when you have suits venued in different jurisdictions that are directed to the same incident of infringement or products (e.g., Droid platforms).

Matthew Macari

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